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The Truth About Dating, Part 2
By Erin Ann McBride and Juli Hiatt Caldwell

Read The Evolution of Dating, Part 1 here

Researchers of the Social Phenomenon that has women shrieking in fear and men breaking out in cold sweats: DATING. Proceed with extreme caution.

The Theory of Organic Dating According to Erin and Juli

From the authors of the study on dating throughout history (that would be us), we bring you the first almost scientifically sound theory of what makes dating so unbelievably difficult. As a companion to the almost technical study we published last week, to much acclaim in both the scientific and dating communities, we now present the second half of our research on dating.

The Theory of Organic Dating According to Erin and Juli states the fundamental truth: all carbon-based life forms are incapable of finding a mate and reproducing by themselves.  Therefore, an intermediary is required. Beginning with the simpler carbon-based life forms, we see that male and female plants must be cross-pollinated in order to get married and produce offspring. They use bees, bats, or other animals that can transfer pollen or seeds. (Hence the term “the birds and the bees,” but this is a family magazine so that’s as much as we’ll say about that!) The bottom line: Even the plant cannot achieve its goals and dreams without a mate.  It is an inherent and natural need to reproduce and find companionship.  If it were not, all men would their wile away their hours on earth contemplating the magic yellow line that appears on their TV during a football game, and women would spend a great deal more time shopping for shoes.

Nature tends to side with the women in the insect world. In a hive, there is one queen, and she’s a big momma! The worker ants are dwarfed by her. Her whole reason to exist is to make more bees. She spends her days eating and laying eggs, and everyone else is there to make sure she eats. The men are there to wait on her, feeler and foot. None of the rest of the women have to lay eggs, and they don’t seem to mind one bit.

In other species, such as the famous Florida love bug or the preying mantis, the male exists entirely for the sake of the female, always meeting a grisly demise once he has fertilized the female’s eggs. All in all, not a bad set-up for the woman … Even in the insect world, the guys just never know what’s going on until the woman has made his brain into a tasty afternoon snack. This is not too far distant from the human world. 

But then, why do we get email after email each week from women asking us for our opinion on women asking out men?  Why is it in the rest of nature, the women control the mating and dating – but in your average singles ward, where the odds are not in their favor, the men and their lack of desire to date, controls the dating scene?  

The sad fact remains that so few humans are capable of meeting their mate for life and beyond by themselves. We need an intermediary, just like plants and animals and everything else we’re supposed to have dominion over. For us, our ‘busy bee’ friends may introduce us to someone or pass along veiled, noncommittal messages of interest. Other bees in our hives may be FHE, ward activities, Institute, or even the occasional web-site geared toward, but not affiliated with, the Church.

Disclaimer: The preceding science lesson was brought to you by two liberal arts majors, girls who only learned science by watching the Weather Channel. Please take with a grain of salt. Thank you.

The Real Truth about Dating

The real, unfettered truth about dating is that it is rarely fun. We’ve been on dates that rank up there with dental work and emptying the litter box. We’ve also been on amazing, fun, memorable dates as well. Dating can certainly have its high points, and it can be enjoyable at times, but it is not full-time fun.  Why do we “play games” that are not fun?  Why do we put our hearts on the line and risk complete rejection?  Why do we hold our [collective] breath on February 14th, hoping we have a secret admirer?  Why do care what other people think?

Because we believe in love. Period.

Rejection Stinks

The truth about dating is that it’s all about being yourself and putting the real you out in the public arena where you can be rejected.  When it’s accepted and praised and lauded, its fun.  When someone else loves, or even just likes, the real you, you are on cloud nine.  Life is great.  Dating is worth it.  But when you are rejected, it can feel like it’s just not worth it.

Possibly one of the greatest quotes (at least in the opinion of these authors) regarding love and rejection comes from Helen Fielding, author of Bridget Jones’ Diary.  "When someone leaves you, apart from missing them, apart from the fact that the whole little world you've created together collapses, and that everything you see or do reminds you of them, the worst is the thought that they tried you out and, in the end, the whole sum of parts which adds up to you got stamped REJECT by the one you love. How can you not be left with the personal confidence of a passed-over British Rail sandwich?"

When so much is at stake, how can we dare risk putting ourselves out there?  Why do we even consider the pain and humiliation that comes with the remote hope of finding love?  There are thousands and thousands of quotes about love.  There are more poems, essays and songs about love than about any other topic in the world.  We believe in love!  Even when we are down, and dating is hardly worth the pain and effort, we pick ourselves up and try again because we believe in love.  (In our humble opinions and scientific prowess, we still don’t think the momma bee is in it for the love.) 

We Believe in Love

Even when we have had no success, and few reasons to believe that we will ever know love, all we have to do is turn on the radio, and someone will be singing about love!  It’s all around us!  We feel it in our fingers!  We feel it in our toes!  And so the feeling grows!  We can’t deny it!  And even when we don’t know what it personally feels like to be in love, all of our conditioning tells us that it’s worth it to wait it out and try again and keep on believing in LOVE!  (And when that doesn’t work, go back to contemplating the little yellow line or spend a few nights with some Ben and Jerry’s and a very large spoon.)

Dating has often been compared with a high-stakes poker game. While we are NOT condoning gambling with this comparison, we believe that for us, the faithful, single Latter-day Saint population, the stakes are so much higher for the rest of the world. When we play the dating game, we are gambling with our eternal lives in a ‘winner-take-all’ situation. That’s why we want to keep playing. We want to win the love of our life and our eternal salvation in one round.

That’s why we feel the pressure. That’s why it’s scary. But that’s precisely why we need to keep playing. And maybe one of these rounds, you’ll get the hand just right, the hand you need to win the game, and you’ll be able to put a ring on that hand and hold it forever.

Your Thoughts

First off, congratulations to Russell in Palm Bay. He wrote in a couple of weeks ago with a great response to the apple quote (http://www.meridianmagazine.com/singlethought/041014public.html ). He is now engaged and will marry the lucky girl in the Bountiful, Utah, temple in January! He must have done a pretty decent job of climbing to the top of the apple tree and coaxing that bright, shiny apple down from the top of the tree, despite the hurricanes that hit Florida and were making apples fly all over the place. Yay, Russell!

We had some great feedback from you on dating through the ages. We called for the men to write in and let us know what you thought, and we heard from just as many women. NV at BYU finds it ironic that, living in the age of instant, constant communication, we seem to be getting worse at communicating with each other. “Not quite so,” she wrote. “Ah, but again in history, Shakespeare's and Jane Austen's writing would tell us that it was a problem in their day as well.  I guess one thing can be certain about dating though . . .it is as diverse as cultures are around the world.  It is just that in history it remained the same within a culture, whereas today it is so diverse that I don't think we can figure out its culture!  It seems to me each relationship is a culture all its own.”

Thanks to NV for pointing that out. How many sonnets did Shakespeare write? A hundred fifty, give or take a few. He spent a good portion of his time writing about the same thing we do; he just did it much more eloquently. As he wrote in Twelfth Night:

“Oh Mistress Mine, where are you roaming?
O stay and hear; your true love’s coming…
What is love? ‘tis not hereafter;
Present mirth hath present laughter;
What’s to come is still unsure:
In delay there lies no plenty…”

Rough translation: they couldn’t find love any more easily than we can now, but there’s no reason in waiting to try and find it, so just do it. (Shakespeare as translated by Nike.) And yet the problem of finding love remains, compounded with uncertainty of what is expected of us.

Jennifer from Iowa is frustrated with how to define her role as a single sister who would like to date more. She wrote, “All the guys I have met are either dating, have a girlfriend, or haven't gone on a mission.  Guys here like the responsibility to ask the girl out.  What I find frustrating is that they never will ask the girl out.  What are we supposed to do?  Wait around half our lives for them to ask us out or ask them out ourselves?  I asked a guy out on a date and he was so uncomfortable with the idea that I asked him out that the date was no fun.  Guys need to realize that if they ask a girl out they probably won't get rejected the first time.  Girls are nice!”

The Beast is Back: Fixating on Looks

Dave sent in his opinion on why he feels some girls aren’t dating. “Many LDS single girls have no idea how much physical appearance matters to guys.  It’s not that spirituality and personal worthiness are not important, it’s just that they are a given among the LDS active single

women. Most guys know in five minutes of meeting you whether they find you physically attractive. The men tend to segregate the single girls into three categories: girlfriend material, friend material, not interested.  

“Given the female/male ratio in LDS singles community, that means that physically attractive girls have lots of dates and their pick of guys.  The ‘sort of cute’ girls will also get their share of guy attention.  Some girls will stand out with their personality, their musical talents, their great sense of wit; these also attract guys. The rest of the girls may find themselves with no dates, no male suitors, no one interested in them.

“My advice to the LDS single women is this: Take your physical appearance seriously.  Exercise and dieting may be just as important to obtaining a celestial marriage as anything else you do.  Dress nicely and take care of your hair, skin, and nails.  If you can combine a physical attractiveness with a sense of humor and warm personality, you’ll be the girl of every LDS man’s dreams.”

We agree with Dave to a certain extent, and we have discussed this topic in this forum before. (Erin is rolling on the floor gagging at the thought of further discussions on this issue.  Men can whine all they want about women’s looks being important.  But until they stop putting ten pounds of “product” into their hair and learn how to shave evenly, she doesn’t care to hear it anymore.)

It’s a given that men expect the single LDS women they date to be spiritual, smart, and talented. We should be proud, in a way, that they see us in this light. They know how high our standards are! But at the same time, while some men want perfect looks to accompany that perfect spiritual package, how many male models do we see in our wards, versus how many guys with a bit of a paunch hanging over their belts? Or guys who still wear shirts left over from their missions? How many have a perfect, thick mane of hair, and how many chrome domes do we see? Our advice to Dave (and the guys who are nodding their heads vigorously in agreement with him) – If you want perfect, you’d better be perfect yourselves. Otherwise accept that we all have physical flaws that give us character.

Before the guys start howling in protest, we hear this from women, too. Missy sums up the opposing viewpoint: “LDS single girls are looking for a ‘perfect looking’ guy, and vice versa, guys are looking for the perfect girl. When I was in the Baltimore Singles ward and all the guys, fat or not, dated this one Barbie-doll girl. She got married to one of the average looking guys. After that, no one continued dating until another Barbie moved into the ward.  What's up with that?  I'm not super thin like the Barbie, but I'm guilty. I'll admit it!  I prefer thin guys. So I'm a hypocrite, I'm fat and I only want a thin. In-shape man ... and I know I'm not the only one.”

Erin can’t help but weigh in with her opinion here.  After all, it is 50% her column. 

Erin Ann’s Opinion

In my personal, humble opinion, looks don’t matter.  When I look around the room, I look for the person who is attempting to put his best foot forward.  I like the guy who knows his table manners, understands chivalry (without running to open every door like an idiot), tries his hardest at whatever he does, keeps up with his personal hygiene, and respects the fact that I have a decent head on my shoulders.  If a guy can’t keep up in conversation with me, and I might add, I speak fast, he’s not going to entertain me for long.  I don’t speak for all women, but I do speak for a strong growing group of women – the career women.  We know how to take care of ourselves.  We are smart, we are strong, we are feminine, and we are wise.  We don’t want a man who looks at us as a physical object.  We want to be noticed for our whole package!  We’re too good to be trophy wives! 

I’m too busy to waste my time on a bad conversationalist.  I can look at the pretty boys on TV.  If I am going to take time out of my life to spend time with a guy, there must be the promise of an uplifting, entertaining, and intelligent conversation.  And as far as his looks go, well, I just ask that he not have anything green in his teeth or hanging from his nose.  If you want a Barbie blonde who will laugh at your every joke, and can’t wait to leave her job at the mall to bake you cookies, I suggest you not bother calling ‘round here.  I’ll be waiting for someone who can appreciate me!

I look on the inside, and I am looking for someone who will do the same exact thing.  I want to be with someone who starts off describing me as, “She’s really fun and interesting.”  If the first thing he says about me is, “She has long blonde hair,” I would be disappointed.  There are so many more interesting features and characteristics to a person than what the outside shows.  Personality lasts a lot longer than looks.  

Back to the Peanut Gallery

Mark in Boston sent in the best advice we received from the guys. Let’s stop picking on each other and think about this. “Here are the key actions that I think would help many more LDS singles enjoy meaningful dating and relationships:

For the guys: invite a girl out on a real date, and do it often.

For the girls: say "yes" when you are invited on a real date.

For everyone: lighten up, have fun, make friends, and do interesting things together.

“It is easy for guys to get discouraged when they can't get a second date with a girl.  Many shy, good-hearted men opt for ‘hanging out’ on weekends when real dating doesn't work for them.  The best thing women can do to help more LDS men develop excellent social skills is to go out with them, and to accept the invitations for a second or third date. It will do wonders for the man's confidence, even if after a few dates you must tell him you don't want to pursue a romantic relationship.  Both the guy and the girl benefit from developing new friendships, practicing dating courtesies, creating some fun memories (including the blunders), and spending fewer weekends at home.  Imagine the positive impact if just 5 or 6 more guys in your ward became converted to ‘real dating.’

A single man Mark knew timidly asked a woman we’ll call Helen out on a date. He continued, “Helen declined, explaining that she prefers to know someone well before going out.  It ended there.  I sympathize with that guy.  How can she ever get to know him if they can't spend time together?  It took courage and effort for him to step forward and extend an invitation.  It is likely to be more difficult for him the next time.

“As a guy, I acknowledge that we will do well to realize that there are many vibrant, worthy women around us.  Unfortunately, in many singles wards, a handful of the girls receive the majority of the dating invitations.  By spending time with some of the other single sisters,

We will discover that we are surrounded by many amazing and delightful women.

“The best thing that single men and women can do is spend time together, preferably on dates.  There should be no fear of going on a few dates even if you don't feel a romantic connection.  Date to make friends, keep it light and lively, and many good things can happen!”

Thanks to all who wrote in and shared their thoughts and comments this week.  And as usual your dating woes, theories, misconceptions, and praises can be sent to our inbox at erinandjuli@meridianmagazine.com

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About the Authors:

With "Sex and the City" and "Friends" dominating our culture, LDS Singles have few places to turn for wholesome entertainment geared towards them. This column aims to fill that void. Authors Juli Hiatt Caldwell and Erin Ann McBride share a combined total of 19 years of dating and 13 years in singles wards. Between them they count over 15 ex-boyfriends, 8 singles wards, and at least 5 email addresses. Friends for seven years, they share many of their personal experiences in this format. As they like to remind each other, “All stories depicted herein are mostly true and will resemble characters living and deceased. Some names and facts have been changed to protect the innocent, make the reader laugh, and in some cases preserve the dignity of the authors. Although the authors are pretty sure they surrendered their dignity long ago.”

Julianne Hiatt Caldwell was born in Anaheim, California, the fourth of seven kids in a very rowdy, loud family. They moved to Utah, where she completed school and started her college education before moving to the Washington, D.C. area, where she worked as a nanny for three years. She met her husband Bryan on a trip to Utah to visit her family, and they were married six months later in the Bountiful Temple. They have been married six years. Juli and Brian are the proud parents of the two most adorable little girls on the planet, Caliana, 4, and Deandra, 1. Cali and Andi are the proud mommies of a host of baby dolls and family pets, including three fantail goldfish they have named Marlin, Dory, and Nemo. Juli and her family are members of the Palm Bay 2nd ward in Florida. She also recently completed her first 5K race and looks forward to running more. Juli is an avid reader, singer, and musician. She also enjoys freelance writing and will soon complete her college degree online from Weber State University.

Erin Ann McBride is a native of the Washington, DC area. She is an events and party manager, currently putting her talents to work as a gun show planner for Beretta USA. She also runs her own business, Events By Erin, on the side. When she is not busy planning dates, parties, and weddings for her friends, she can be found volunteering at the local fire department where she is a certified fire fighter and EMT-B. Erin Ann loves to travel and visit third world countries. It is her dream to someday live and write full-time about life in less fortunate countries. Erin Ann graduated from George Mason University and holds a B.A. in Political Communication and Broadcast Journalism. She also enjoys romantic dinners, moonlight walks on the beach, chick flicks, roller coasters, professional sporting events, and does not currently have a boyfriend. Erin Ann is currently a member of the Langley YSA Ward, McLean, VA Stake, where she enjoys planning weekly activities for her friends while serving as a Family Home Evening Group Leader.

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